NOLA Film Scene with Tj & Plaideau
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NOLA Film Scene with Tj & Plaideau
Fan Expo New Orleans 2025 Panel with the Ninety for Chill Podcast
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Our latest episode comes to you from a live panel at Fan Expo 2025 in the vibrant city of New Orleans, where we unveil the charm of "I Dig Crazy Flicks by Ninety for Chill the Podcast." The premise celebrates films with run times between 70 and 100 minutes. Joined by Tj and Plaideau of the NOLA Film Scene Podcast, we journey through the eclectic landscape of cinema, relishing cult classics like "Hawk the Slayer" and "Flash Gordon." Together, we revel in the eccentricities of low-budget filmmaking and share the joy of stumbling upon bizarre gems such as "Wheel of Heaven."
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This podcast is protected under the laws of the United States and other countries. Unauthorized duplication, distribution or exhibition may result in civil liability, criminal prosecution and the wrath of the tall man Boy. And this is 90 for Chill Podcast live from Fan Expo 2025 in New Orleans. I'm sorry, yankee, I'm not going to be able to nail that.
Speaker 2:No, you did great.
Speaker 1:You didn't do New Orleans.
Speaker 2:And then I watched Kojak I love that old series and he did New Orleans. He went French with like full bore. So New Orleans is good Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, so with me today. Well, you know formal introductions this is Cat Bus, russ and this is I Dig Crazy Flicks Presents 90 for Chill, the podcast. I Dig Crazy Flicks just found it better as a brand and it kind of expands, you know, my opportunities to get guests on the show. But primarily my focus when I started this podcast 90 for Chill was to focus on movies with run times between 70 and 100 minutes. I think that anything longer than that, how are you going to make time for it? I work two jobs myself and if you watch, basically due to streaming, I kind of came up with the idea because with streaming you watch one episode, you're going to end up in a binge. Then you're not going to have any energy left when you wake up and have to go back to work. So I also find that 90 minutes usually the movie has to be crazy. I mean to catch my interest.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So with me are two experts, I believe, on the New Orleans film scene. I've got Brian and TJ from the NOLA Film Scene Podcast.
Speaker 2:With TJ and Plato.
Speaker 1:Thank you. You know, just to start, you have a crazy film. Either of you that kind of influenced you and the kind of taste you have. You know, for me, have you ever heard of hawk the slayer?
Speaker 2:uh, yes, I've watched a lot of the bad movie by bible channel on youtube bad movie okay, all, right, no, no, no it's called bad movie it's definitely not an a, it's not not a B, it might be a C, but it was right at the time, about 1980, when I saw it and I was a kid playing Dungeons Dragons, and it's Jack Palance as the villain, kind of Star Wars-esque set in a D&D world. The Elven sword floats, it glows, the repeating crossbow is just chopped up edited footage. So it's ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk. How's that go? Ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk. It's perfection in its crap. It's craptastic and I love every minute of it.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean for me, I guess my mom just didn't particularly like all the Star Wars stuff, so Flash Gordon was her answer immediately since she's a big. Anglophile was her answer immediately, since she's a big Anglophile.
Speaker 2:She recently.
Speaker 1:Just got back from another trip to England and that's why Timothy Dalton is my James Bond, because my dad would not go to see really loud movies. So, at seven I'm going to take. She didn't want to go to the movies alone, so I ended up seeing the Living Daylights three times in the cinema.
Speaker 2:You were a kid in the 90s.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean you know, I cinema you were a kid in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know, I only missed two months of night of the 80s. Okay, all right. Oh, I need some geritol. Oh, my god, my back. I'm saying I'm old ross.
Speaker 1:I'm saying I'm old I'm sorry I keep mixing up brian. Yes, tj, what uh? What movies really like you got into that are kind of off the wall.
Speaker 3:I know I should have had that prepared. It changes from year to year.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it wasn't until recently. I was trying to watch Legion off of Netflix in my hotel Back in 2009,. I thought, oh, this just looks like big budget, unthought-out garbage. And then, months later, I'm at the B movie double feature, and when they say B, I mean no budget double feature. So yeah, it really kind of opened me up to what crazy can be Getting into acting.
Speaker 3:Brian and I both got into it much later in life, so we didn't grow up in Hollywood. We didn't grow up with, you know, family in the business that could get us in front of cameras early on, a lot of work for free. You do a lot of student films, you do a lot of self-produced productions and in that time we've come across a lot of different shorts. Brian was in a very interesting. Actually it's not a short, it's a feature. Which one, the Wheel of Heaven.
Speaker 2:Wheel of Heaven. It's a feature. It's absurdist art house. It almost defies description. My wife likes her films kind of normal and she went to the premiere with me and walked out and said what the hell was that? But it's fun, it has a point. It's like somebody flipping channels in a choose your own adventure book, so you have to follow along but let them take you in the way, which is fine. Not everybody's going to like that.
Speaker 1:It's an interesting time now that we don't really channel surf anymore, because usually it's just, you know, late nights in high school I'm not had to got over the sleepover thing by that that point. So it's like, well, what's on up at night up? All night on USA All night. Yeah, that's where I found phantasm myself, which is one of my favorite horror movies. How can you dislike a franchise where your hero is that ice cream truck driver with a quad barrel shotgun?
Speaker 2:He was definitely having a ball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that you know Don Costarelli, like a beast master, is probably his most tame movie. Wow, yeah, Cause you got Bubba Ho tap and then you, yeah and uh, John dies at the end is a really crazy one. Yeah, A lot of discussion on the podcast, so you know, let's just jump then to you know the premise of 90 for Chill, which is is 100 minutes, a good cap on a run time.
Speaker 3:I think it depends on what the goal is. I get the concept. I like the concept because I mean, let's face it, these days it's not the easiest thing to just sit down for two and a half, three hours and that's one of the first things we talk family and I talk about whenever we're trying to decide a film for the family for the evening. What's the runtime on it? Because who's got, you know, after a full day of work and activities and everything else, who's got that kind of time? And I don't like to stop and start, especially the first time I'm watching something. I like to watch it all the way through.
Speaker 3:But on the other side of that coin is what's the story they're trying to tell? Does it need to be longer than an hour and a half? That's the big question. Can they tell the story? We've learned from doing 48 hour film project and 7 and 7 film project, where you have either 48 hours or 7 days to film an entire film. You have to tell that story in the confines of 4 to 7 minutes and I honestly I think it's better storytelling if you can be a little more concise with it oh well, uh, yeah, uh, there we go.
Speaker 1:This is proven. Uh, hopefully, john um, was it john houston um? The? Uh, he lost me comic book artist we spoke with earlier, larry Larry Houston, larry Houston, sorry to equate him. Way well, not a bad equation, john Houston's pretty good. So there you go. That's the thesis he was curious about.
Speaker 2:I don't like saying it's got to be this amount. I agree with you. Gravity is the point. It's the pacing. I won't say what. I agree with you. Gravity is the point and you can. It's the pacing. I won't say what.
Speaker 2:I was in something in a couple and we're at the amateur level. Basically, you know we're getting paid for movies but we're still doing movies for free, student films, and some of them editing is so precise, it carries you seven minutes but you forget about the time. I know it's not hard to forget seven minutes, but the story drags you through. You're like, oh, that's great, you don't even think about it. Where I've been in others where if we were filming right now, the camera would be on me. Then when I stopped they would wait a second. Put the camera on, you, wait a second and then you would start talking. So the editing, the pacing, lost its energy. So there's hey, how you doing, I'm doing all good, so you lose that. So, even at the shorter times, it's about the editing, it's about the storytelling and how you learn and these are new directors, new actors but how you learn to bring that energy and bring that to people.
Speaker 1:Well, when you bring up editing and pacing, that makes me think of the classic John Wu Hong Kong movies. Those are long movies but you know, greatest 45 minutes in action is probably the finale of Hard Boiled. In my opinion, that's just perfect. Bang, bang, bang. If you can keep that pace up for two and a half hours, you're golden. If you stop and have a bunch of dwarves singing and mocking Bilbo Baggins, you're golden. If you stop and have a bunch of dwarves singing and mocking Bilbo Baggins, you're going to lose something, but if that adds to his character, so they're mocking him.
Speaker 2:But then when he becomes the hero, you feel it, you take that journey with him. So it's the timing, it's the precision and it's doing that for a purpose rather than, oh, I'm just going to bring another character in so I can make a toy, so I can, you know, lengthen the movie to make it longer.
Speaker 1:That's when we get Legolas brought into the franchise early. And I think the problem with the Hobbit series, how they say that, is like we kind of knew Bilbo already. I mean not Martin Freeman. I mean Martin Freeman is awesome, yeah, probably my favorite character in Love Actually, but that's a movie that.
Speaker 2:I want to see the mashup of the Hobbit movies and Love Actually now, but I like the Hobbit movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, I like them. I love the Battle of the Five Armies, especially the extended cut where you get the R-rated gore.
Speaker 2:When Bilbo's there looking up at Smaug. I was in the front row, I was close and I was reaching for an imaginary sword. I'm an old D&D player. Back in the day and I felt I was like, oh dude, I want to kill that kid.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean and I like that Peter Jackson expanded the universe by using Tolkien's expanded universe. He didn't just make things, maybe a little bit with the dwarf and the elf love, but you can kind of go for that. But I understand why people didn't like it. And yes, it probably could have been done in two movies, probably could have been done in one.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean that goes back to Rankin-Bass. That shows you that it is all about the narrative, because nothing happens in a Rankin-Bass movie, which was actually Studio Ghibli's beginning.
Speaker 2:Right, you're hitting my child on the head, we're going to throw down. But people didn't like the Return of the King from Franken and Bass.
Speaker 1:Well, that was just Sean Lee, I agree.
Speaker 2:But the song when there's a Whip, there's a Way. I still sing it to this day. And no, I'm not singing on this podcast. You'll have to come to NOLA Film Scene to hear that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're only Maybe bonus content A couple of minutes before say uh copyright trolls, get on us about that yeah, I've only been hit a couple of times.
Speaker 1:I was back when I was with pod bean for my distribution and they would just instantly put it up on youtube. Once it was, uh, the your, your next episode, and I put the trailer on before I did my review and then I was able to talk that one down Like no, this is their trailer. Lionsgate got the rights to Perfect Day by Lee Reed. I was in the challenge to your Ghibli when I reissued a Totoro episode. Oh nice, and it was a trailer for their you know jiggly fest. But nope, nope got flagged. Yeah, because they use their music. They're like music is something you got to be very careful of. Like you can use about any soundbite. I try my best to use about any sound. Like I'm a not you know. You said I'm a 90s kid. Well, you know midwest radio, that's. So everybody's just like well, I guess it was zoo, I can't remember the term. Morning zoo, morning zoo. Yeah, you just throw a sound bite in whenever you can get a chance. It's crazy crazy, crazy.
Speaker 2:But Kevin Smith, I follow him a lot. Everybody knows that my first movie I was in Jay and Silent Bob reboot and he can play a trailer from one of his movies and YouTube will pull it down. Yep, and it's his.
Speaker 1:AI Right, and there's not real people reviewing them. Technically, a lot of it blinds to the Weinsteins, but Not anymore oh. He's got dogma back. Yeah, I think that was being held up just because of the music.
Speaker 2:I thought no, the Weinsteins had it Okay, and so I think, if you can go to Kevin's podcast, they made him an offer and he didn't want to do it, and so that's why it sat. And then the rights, finally, I believe just reverted back to Kevin and they probably had to pay it, but he's planning on taking it on tour, like he did for Reboot, like he did for Yoga Hosers Red State was the first one he really did the tours for.
Speaker 1:I miss you, Kevin. We need you on the podcast, my real closest relationship with any auteurs with the Thoska Twins out of Vancouver. They've done. They made their name. This is back with Peoria, so I'm from Central Illinois, that definite Yankee here again, and the Drunken Zombie double feature. Eventually they did an annual film festival and that was one like I really wanted to see, called dead hooker and a trump.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I've heard of it yes, uh, then they're probably.
Speaker 1:They're probably best known for american mary, a story of a med student, after being sexually assaulted by her instructor, decides to go into body modification using her surgical skills.
Speaker 2:On herself or on others.
Speaker 1:On others she happens to. Well. I mean that's going to be spoilers, but she's got a great practice dummy. They did a great sequel to a WWE film, xeno Evil. Oh yeah, xeno Evil 2, and that was With Kane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:Her primary actress in those films were Isabel I think it's not Isabel Catherine, Isabel, best known for Ginger and Ginger Snaps. Talking to a bunch of actors and the experience of working your way up. Not too far removed from my time in the wrestling business, you say, oh, working for free, we call it for a hot dog and a handshake. If you can get that hot dog, that's fine. Thinking about the crowd right now at this panel, a lot of buttons handed out. I do think the promotion is fine. We're competing against Back to the Future. That's not a compliment.
Speaker 1:No 40th anniversary panel.
Speaker 2:It's a big Back to the Future weekend here. Not only do you have Michael J Fox and Leah Thompson, the main people, but they have Goldie, the guy who played the mayor, the second dad. His last name's Weissman. I've just kind of met him on Facebook. People are like go say hi to him. I'm like, okay, I haven't met him yet, but all right, I'll go say hi to him. I'm not disappointed that we didn't get anybody. It'd be nice For TJ and I. This is our first. We're thrilled yeah.
Speaker 1:We're talking to TJ's lovely wife here. Cool to the smallest crowd I've performed in wrestling-wise.
Speaker 2:I haven't done any stand-up comedy yet, but in improv there's one person there, even none. You do it.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know what I mean and she's being a great audience member. I like the one show I did in front of one person wrestling-wise. This guy was what we call a total mark. He's like trying to commentate, plot the moves out. Time it right time, it right time, it right there you go. It's like weird warehouse shows is the only voice you can hear.
Speaker 2:Hey, weird warehouse shows is what put ECW on the map? There's nothing wrong with a weird warehouse show.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's probably one of my best wrestling experiences. Was the first time ECW came to Peoria. They didn't do the arena, lip Biscuit was doing the arena that night. And they just did what they call the assembly hall. Just the ball, everybody's on top of each other. And then like, oh, we weren't quite prepared for Axel Rotten to be thrown. No, I think it's Tony. What are the ball needs to be thrown out right behind us where we're sitting. 3d, up close and personal where we're sitting 3D up close and personal.
Speaker 3:Since we're on wrestling, what's your finishing move?
Speaker 1:My primary finishing move was called School Days. My gimmick was the student of the game, which is a lot, to be honest, a little too much thought for wrestling fans, unfortunately. Oh, you're a Triple Eight fan, oh no, I hated Hunter then Can't say I'm a big fan now. I appreciate that I watch AEW and I appreciate that he but I do appreciate Hunter's mind is always on the wrestling bit. Anything he sees he tries to kill and put forth into the, into it Like. And that's kind of the movie I ended up watching last night. Because Legion, you can't get with the ad program on Netflix, like there's licensing issues, oh how, why? Well, I don't understand why the ads make a difference. So I watched this movie called the hollow rising with Mads Mikkelsen it directed by the guy who did drive and like the first 15 minutes are awesome and then it just falls off a cliff. In my opinion you get some like, basically some of the gore effects I really want to incorporate in the movie I wrote once I got into no budget cinema Because I was trying to like, after my wrestling slowed down, I was trying to write well originally I had a friend who said, oh, we could do a comic book about all your experiences on the road.
Speaker 1:And then that kind a lot of drama there, a literal falling out, and I said, well, I still got these stories, so let's try to make it into some screenplay. So they're deep indie, you know. Yeah, feelers, while I still try to do kevin smith and carantino style comedy. And then I thought like, well, no, just got to get a movie made, all right, we'll do the no-budget route. And then I figured I'd have all my friends from the wrestling scene, but it's Main Event of the Dead, pro-wrestling zombie comedy. So you finished it. No, the screenplay, yeah.
Speaker 1:I wrote that. But no, I haven't been able to get anything. Get the support behind it, I couldn't. We might be able to help. We know some people, all right, yeah. So I still got to do a rerun and script. It was basically like I want to own this real fast. Wrote the sentence off the Washington Library of Congress, so I have the copyright on it. I think I may have beat pro wrestling versus zombies versus pro wrestlers. I have a copy of that. I think I may have beaten him by a couple months With Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I know Shane Douglas, roddy Piper, one of the Hardy bro-ists.
Speaker 2:I believe Duggan's in it too, because at WrestleMania 30, they did the Mid-South convention. I'm a Mid-South boy from way back in the day and I have a 2x4 signed by Hacksaw Jim Duggan. He was in it because he becomes a zombie and Piper has to deal with it. So that was. I don't want to say it was trash, it wasn't good, but I enjoyed all of it, but it's for me. So when we say, like you were talking about the I already forgot what movie and it was 15 Minutes, mads Mikkelsen and then it was trash and I'm not saying you're wrong because I haven't seen it and I don't care if I had, because that's your opinion. But I watched the internet and I listened to people's reactions. I didn't like this because it's garbage. So it's all or nothing with them. They don't let the story tell them something which is everybody's opinion, that's fine, or they don't even give it a chance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I made it through it and I really wanted to like it more. I got you.
Speaker 2:Here's my question. I'll phrase it this way when Wonder Woman 1984 came out, okay, I liked it. I didn't love it. I loved the first one, that was great. I liked Justice League I did too, and I loved the extended version even better.
Speaker 1:I really loved Batman v Superman, the extended version.
Speaker 2:I liked it. I didn't love it and Black Adam was trash. So we'll stop there with those. But I have a friend who writes Wonder Woman fan fiction and so his review of Wonder Woman 1984 is I would not have written Max Lord like that. That's fine, but you can't expect them to do what you want to do. You have to let the story take you. You don't have to like it, but you see what I mean. People close off too soon and it's got to be great or nothing. It's trash. It's pretty good, it's okay. You know what I mean. We're so hyperbolic on the internet.
Speaker 1:I mean well, jesse Eisenberg's Luther. I thought no, that's the appropriate tech, bro.
Speaker 3:That's what Luther would be today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man of Steel. Yeah, the man of Steel Superman, when his dad didn't let him save him. Think about the farmers when Superman first came out in 1938. They probably trusted the government a lot more. So when that movie comes out, think about how not only people but then the farmers who have been screwed over by the banks and government, or just have that feeling because I don't have the facts for that. It makes sense for now. You know what I mean, so it has to change a little bit with the times now you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it has to change a little bit with the times well I brought this thing to a close. You know it's, that's fine. It's more like oh, you know, I usually like I had a lot of fun at Twin Cities time because, oh people, would you know, crowd started building, yeah, and then like I'll throw now out the buttons, yeah, yeah and then you starve yes, exactly that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, it's great having you guys on on to this panel, because every time is a learning experience for me and, honestly, I think we're going pretty smooth right now this is a good podcast and a great place to record it.
Speaker 1:Maybe a little echoey, yeah kind of reminds me of the Predator joke I think it was Shane Black got to do oh from the Predator. He goes to the Native American and said you know, he keeps trying to get this character to crack. That's where the Predator eventually gets his laugh at the end of the movie and he like he did that laugh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think his name's Shane Black, but yeah, totally understand.
Speaker 1:Well, Shane Black was one of the characters in there. Yeah, no, he did. He like, he like. Oh, can you punch up the strip? No, I'm here to just get paid. Gotcha, get paid.
Speaker 2:Gotcha. Yeah, folks put it in the comments when we post this. Tell us who the character was, tell us if we were wrong or right. Put it on social media. Engage us, follow us, share us.
Speaker 1:Oh well, with that said, I got something out of the bag to grab. Excuse me while I whip this out. Just to get the word out on the podcast, I went and got some bumper stickers for both shows. I mean, it's pretty simplistic.
Speaker 1:Just figuring out freeform on Apple. Now I realize how I should have done Fan Expo, but my attempt to make a little video cassette it's awesome looking. Do you guys want to talk? This is a platform for you just as much as I. Anything you want to talk about from NOLA film scene, let's turn it on you.
Speaker 2:Okay, how long have you been podcasting? Starting the fifth year? Fifth, wow, yeah, that's awesome. We've been doing a little over a year, maybe getting close to a year and a half. What has been the biggest revelation for you?
Speaker 1:You. You came in with an idea, realized that was wrong and this is how it is. Well, I really so. Initially I was like oh, let's do themes. My first episode I recorded with my recent ex. At the time we're still on very good terms.
Speaker 2:She drove me to the train station I don't know what her husband thinks, but she drove you to a place that is going to get you out of town. Might not be as close as you think.
Speaker 1:Well so and we decided to just go with anime to start. So because I showed her a lot of stuff. And then, I think the next week I talked to my older sister, the poetic critic, on Letterboxd. It was all about Jeff Goldblum that time I was. They can put in a cap at 97 minutes.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But it's very difficult to get guests on the show if they gotta go and do a lot of homework. I've had a guest who's a real sport. He's on the comic scene in Central Illinois. Andrew Teedy Couchman Bakes. His TikTok series is Baking While Baked, while he makes stuff, while he bakes stuff with sugar and spice while he's a little different and feeling nice.
Speaker 1:He wanted to do stuff like Tombstone and I had to think well, how can we get to that? That's a good two-hour movie. I can't, and like well, we can, do a marathon of Sam Elliott movies. He was fun with that. We also did that for the Thing as well, which is just a few minutes too long, even for 100 minutes, but then it's like his wife was getting on him about. Oh so how long is this one going to be? Another four hour affair. So brevity, and I guess that's your theme. Search led you to the focus of brevity.
Speaker 1:Yes, yep, you want to be in and out. I, which led you to the focus of Brevin. Yes, yep, you want to be in and out. I get a lot, probably a lot more plays when I don't have a guest. I'm like, all right, I'm just going to talk about this movie for a bit. Kind of makes me a little sad as a writer, primarily Like, oh, nobody's going to take the time to. But I understand now like, oh well, this is something you could play in the background and again, I just a lot of time, like when I hear people talk about it. My friends talk about the podcast they listen to. It's basically, yeah, they're looking for the shorter episodes, Right, right.
Speaker 2:And we were advised that, by doing research, keep it about a half an hour. But when it's good, it's good, like we just dropped a 45 minute episode with Miss Ooh La La, our cosplay friend, who will be here tomorrow at Fan Expo, but not on this recording.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was about to say listen to the episodes.
Speaker 1:All right, I can't say I won't be there.
Speaker 3:She will be. We had a few that were longer than an hour and it just gets so burdensome to edit that much and we were dropping episodes every week. So a friend of mine had been podcasting for a while but he does it more to promote his marketing business and he said nah, 30, 35 minutes is the max. People start their attention spans start dropping off after that. So we started trying to cut it down a little bit and I think we've gotten pretty good content since we started doing that. We narrow the focus a little bit, but sometimes it's difficult because you get into a good conversation. We've had a few guests that we've.
Speaker 3:we've chased some rabbits and it yeah that ends up going a little bit longer. There's been a couple that we've just split into two, made it a multi-part episode. Yeah, that kind of relieves the burden to get the content churned out.
Speaker 1:I've done that a few times and I think the only problem with that is well, they talked about it last week is a response I get when I'm like, oh, part two, oh, but I do kind of make it a rule now, part two, oh, but I do kind of make it a rule. Now, I try to put the movie on at the same time in my peripheral. So I have an idea like, okay, we got to keep it. I'm saying no longer an undervent, we better go and keep it. That way We'll follow all the guide.
Speaker 2:Plus it can be a prompt of oh yeah, I remember that scene, yeah that does work, worked a lot with the Princess Bride episode.
Speaker 1:I like it'd be a prompt of oh yeah, I remember that scene. Yeah, that does work. Worked a lot with the Princess Bride episode. I mean, that's a movie I can quote back and forth. How long is that? Only about an hour 36. Not that long a movie. It's really bang bang. Rob Reiner he kept it pretty concise until I'd say A Few Good Men and then, oh, I got Oscar buzz.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Few Good Men Jaws the Thing. Some of the other ones you mentioned Tombstone, no, no, no, no, that does not need to be 90 minutes. Those are as close to perfection as you can get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jaws works, and that's funny because at Twin Cities Con it's a generation thing as you keep bringing it up when you promote your podcast. Have you seen the Bill and Ted movies? I don't know. I don't know with kids today. How is that a generation thing? It's parents. That's the problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I hand out the podcast cards to advertise, debbie Derryberry, who voiced Jimmy Neutron, has been on and a lot of people because that was the early 2000s, the younger people know that on. And a lot of people because that was the early 2000s. The younger people know that we're starting to get away from that because they're still getting younger. And I was in Bill and Ted have I mentioned I was Death's photo double TJ Not yet. Okay, I want to keep it consistent. But Bill Sadler's been on and that's how I find out people's age and their interests.
Speaker 2:And so when you were behind me because I was handing out cards all through the con today, annoying the hell out of people, but you know some people liked it. But but I was saying, do you know the bill and ted movies? And that's what you're saying. You're behind me going what do you? What do you mean? How do you not know the bill and ted? And you find out very quickly that some people like I don't know who keanu reeves is. Oh, but anyway, back to what you were saying.
Speaker 1:okay, well, well, speaking of kids, when I did the twin cities, a kid did go and say what are they waiting for? Why don't they just get on the boat and go kill the frickin shark? So no, no, tension spans today. Yeah, a Tombstone really is such a beautiful disaster, because it was. People keep arguing who was the director. Was it Joris Cosmatos, or was it really Kurt Russell? It was just everything. Everything was going wrong.
Speaker 2:But behind the scenes or was it really Kurt Russell? It was just everything. Everything was going wrong, but Behind the scenes, what was recorded and edited was great, Like Jaws. How the shark didn't work.
Speaker 1:Which made them have to make a suspense movie instead of a horror movie, and it worked better. And then we were talking with MC Popsicle Popsicle, earlier, Josh Young shout out. We were just saying, hey, no, I do forgive sequels Like, oh, if you do an awesome movie, I'm going to give you an extra 15 minutes. And I brought up John Wick as the example and you know, oh, John Wick 2 was awesome, I'll give you an extra 30 minutes. And then John Wick 4, oh, yeah, no, no, I'm totally happy with two hours 45 minutes. And again that comes back to the editing and the pacing, Like just bang, bang. You know, that's the only problem I have with a lot of James Bond movies, and that is we don't really have the time to slow down just so you can shag another woman. I mean, these are PG movies all the way up until License to Kill. We're not going to get that much out of your shag and we're going to leave that one lying where it is.
Speaker 2:I'll keep it PG, yeah yeah, shag, baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's also interesting when you come to say adapting a novel. I do not expect any adaptation of War and Peace to follow the. I learned it from listening to the Terminator 2, no, the Aliens commentary with James Cameron. He was saying, well, I got Aliens, but at the same time I got the go to write the script for First Blood, part 2, rambo. And you know, he just asked somebody I don't know if it was Stallone oh, you just gotta write 100. Just focus on 120 pages, one page a minute. So adapting something can be a totally different affair because you know how much material you have. That's why I'm not. I don't hate on the lord of the rings right and hobbit trilogies.
Speaker 1:Now I could probably go. Maybe now it's a generational thing for me, like hunger games. Come on, battle royale did it in one movie, the entire thing in one movie, which I'm very fairly certain was the inspiration for the hunger games I got you.
Speaker 2:I did not know that I'm not familiar with that movie like tarantino's.
Speaker 1:I think it was like tarantino's favorite movie for a while oh yeah it's a big japanese movie it's about.
Speaker 1:It's about two, maybe even longer, but you got the. Uh, this is the first real parent of the actress who played gogo from kill bill. But it's basically yeah, we're just gonna choose a random junior high class to then one survivor. Yeah, so that's the big reason why I never made it. The states for a good 10 years is like we're having teenagers beat. Katana was the antagonist. Essentially the one guy overseeing everything. You might know him best is the Kenny Blankenship on. No, he was Vic Romero on MXC Most Extreme Elimination Challenge back on Spike TV. Oh, so that's the guy who played the straight man on. That is pretty much the antagonist. He's done a lot of great movies, like a remake of Satu Ichi the Blind Swordsman and that's, but saying all, all that it kind of is a a cultural thing as well. Uh, when it comes to run times, I love takashi miike movies.
Speaker 1:Uh, audition ichi the killer yeah but then he's done adaptations of manga like Blade of the Immortal, and no, he does the entire. First. We could have definitely cut out a few of these.
Speaker 2:Well, you're talking about cut out, and that made me think. Do you like Stephen King? Didn't really read him growing up. Okay, he's got a series called the Dark Tower, which is his Lord of the Rings. Love the books, the audio books.
Speaker 1:I listen to them while I clean, so then they tried to make it into a movie seven books, seven books into one movie. I thought they were. I see I didn't see the movie, I didn't know. They tried doing it. I thought it was going to be the franchise. That's what it should have been, and it just.
Speaker 2:Elba is great. I know the character. There was a color change that didn't bug me at all, but he's a cowboy knight from the future and never wore a cowboy hat. So not only the gripe of trying to cut it too much, to miss the basics of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I think it may have confused audiences that Matthew McConaughey wasn't the guy who was going to be wearing the hat.
Speaker 2:Let him be confused, and then you can explain it to him and bring it to him. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That was a pretty good comment.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it was All right. All right, all right, I had to. I think we're getting close to the time, gentlemen.
Speaker 1:I'll go through my formalities. I always thank my late best friend Sasha Marie Harden for being an inspiration to me and keeping me out of too much trouble and I hope she's doing the same for everybody else she touched in her life and I hope she's squeezing the ectoplasm out of my fuzzy little buddy. Skimble Shanks, the one-eared angel. And I've got to thank my Patreon subscribers. Tim Bates he's been on the episode about the 1989 movie Arena. Charles Band produced film and Night of the Demons Radiates.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
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Speaker 3:Mine are all TJ Sebastian Official or TJ Sebastian.
Speaker 2:How.
Speaker 3:Instagram, Facebook and then, of course, Noah Film Scene on Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:And I'm Brian Plato P-L-A-I-D-E-A-U. It's French, Sounds like the clay, but isn't Find me there on Facebook. I'm sure if you search that on the others you can find it there. And then I'm Kodaks by Kojak on Instagram, Because you can't see me through this audio. I'm bald, even though I have a beard. Someone gave me the nickname of Kojak, like Tally Savalas and Kodak Pictures.
Speaker 1:Kodaks by Kojak, as I always like to close out with a soundbite from David Tennant from Good Almonds, can I have a wahoo Wahoo? Thanks guys.
